Tuesday, December 04, 2007

Down & Out

I've been down and out with the flu. Although I did manage to haul my fevered self outside to shovel the 4" of snow we received this weekend off my sidwalk and am gearing myself up to also shovel the 4-5" of anticpated snow this afternoon. Oh, the joys of winter in Minnesota!

One happy note in all of this is the arrival of the v- channeled spring bronze weatherproofing strips I ordered from Kilian Hardware (it's taped to a board).

I haven't posted about it yet, but over the past couple of years I have been (very) slowly restoring each of my 80+ yr old windows. I've been terribly unimpressed with the spring bronze available in the stores, so I decided to go with the v-channel. Now that I've had a chance to inspect it up close, I think I made the right decision. It is very sturdy. (And am I the only one to note that the postal packaging Kilian used would be the very kind that another compay could easily use to ship, say, backband molding to a desperate customer?)

I promise to do a full account of the windows one of these days. I'm doing a full restoration (i.e. stripping each sash and trim down to bare wood, reinstalling the old glass, reputtying, repainting, replacing rope, weatherproofing, and reinstalling). I'm kind of a perfectionist, so this job is taking some time.


Anonymous said...

I would greatly enjoy reading your trials on weatherproofing old windows, as I have two that currently have plastic covering them, also trying to survive this Minnesota winter.


Carrie said...

I have restored 16 of my 23 windows in my bungalow over the past 2 years (just as you describe--taken apart and stripped down to bare wood, etc) so I understand the need to do it right, and the feeling you get when it is all re-assembled. It feels good to know that I am not the only one! I was wondering how/if you are insulating the weight pockets. I have been putting expanding insulating foam in the bottom and then pouring in a few inches of loose insulation on that so the weights can create the space they need. This seems to have stopped the chimney effect a bit, but it could be better. Do you have any suggestions? Also, the Disney Studio moulding department sells moulding--they have entire online catalog, though I didn't see your back band you can call them (and make sure they ship!). You can search their website for more information and complete catalog: http://studioservices.go.com/production/moulding.html. Finally, I have lots of storms and screens salvaged if you need anymore I can check my sizes for you.

John said...

Thanks for the link to Kilian's site! I can't find any spring-bronze in my part of the world and really need some for the Devil Queen. Looks like some good stuff, very exciting.

Josh @ Bungalow '23 said...

What timing! I also just took delivery of a shipment of v-channel spring bronze from Kilian's. I'm looking forward to the detailed report on your window restoration process, too.

StuccoHouse said...

I really will pull together some posts on the windows. It's a lot of work, but it's probably the most rewardingproject I have worked on. They look almost new when they are done.

12 of my windows are casement. 13 are double hung. My upstairs windows, bathroom windows & one bedroom windows were part of work done the the PO. Thankfully, she pulled off the wood trim before doing her work. I can complain about many things she did, but when she took off the trim, she caulked all of the joints in each weight pocket. I discovered this when I pulled out the weights to replace rope. So, I have very little air coming in through the weight shafts - barely showed on my infrared energy audit. I did, however, spedn considerable time caulking the wood trim where it meets the plaster.

Carrie - Disney - who would have thought! I'll take a look through their catalog. Thanks for the link. I haven't finalized what I'm going to do with the rest of my windows (storm/screen-wise). I've been mulling over a few ideas, but will keep your offer in mind.

Kilain is a very nice shop. Good customer services, fast shipping and decent prices. I ordered my storm door hardware through them. Watch for sales, they have them pretty frequently.

AJN said...

Stucco house---

I think siwek Lumber may have the moulding profile you are looking for, it may need some modifications, however. i have bought some similiar backband with the ogee profile from them, but later on just ended up milling it myself from scratch because it was just too expensive to buy it at $2 l a lineal foot. I might be able help you out with yours.

I have read your blog about fixing windows--have you ever thought about taking your existing sashes and installing sash liners? The bigges benefits to this are that you can insulate the weight cavity and you can also have easily removable and cleanable tilt out sashes!!.

StuccoHouse said...

AJN - Oh, I posted about my luck with Siwek lumber ;-)

Someone posted the name of a mill in NJ that I contacted. They had what I wanted and were priced ok, so I'll probably order from them come Spring. Although, I'm still checking out all options.

As far as sash liners, I'm personally not a fan for a couple of reasons. I don't have any desire to alter the original sashes. I haven't been impressed with the quality of the liners I have seen. I haven't found a properly weatherproofed double hung to be particularly cold. I couldn' care less about tilting sashes. I'm a bit of a purist and keeping the double hung & weights intact is important to me. Opening a properly balanced pully and weight double hung is a thing of beauty.

Anonymous said...

You inspired me to order the v-channel weather stripping for the windows I am restoring. It arrived today and I started installing it this evening. I am not sure if you started your install yet but here is some of what I have found to work. I used an awl to pre-punch holes in the weather stripping every 2 inches before putting it up. This created dimples around the punched holes that needed to be cleaned up before installing. A very sharp chisel worked well for this, the file didn’t work. I also needed to cut a notch to clear the sash cord pulley. I bent the first few nails when trying to nail them, so I decided to predrill the holes. I started in the middle of the strip, I drilled one hole then put in the nail before I drilled the next hole and nailed that one. It actually goes pretty fast once you get going and the results were great. Hope this helps, I am actually taking pics of the process something so let me know if you have any other questions.

Bill G.

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